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Tribalism at it’s worst

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Hattie’s ideas are old (socialist) hat!

Let’s close down half the schools in West Park ward, South Shields, let’s make sure there are no road repairs or pavement repairs in Harton ward, and why on earth would you need any doctors in Cleadon Village or East Boldon? These relatively better off areas of South Tyneside surely don’t need or deserve such services.

Hattie Harperson wants to ensure that public spending is used to even out the inequalities of class and she is willing to use the Audit Office and Ofsted to monitor how public bodies plan to reduce the divide in “class audits”.

Barmy, divisive, tribal, and a return to the old class wars that Blair tried his hardest to avoid, the woman is on a hiding to nothing and doesn’t seem to realise that even her own government has moved on a bit since 1997. Is this a serious attempt to woo the left in the event of Brown being ditched after the next election?

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Written by curly

September 9, 2009 at 10:02 am

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  1. What a load of right wing reactionary wank! Please explain how ending class inequalities would be bad news for South Tyneside?

    Bryan

    September 9, 2009 at 12:21 pm

  2. Not quite as simple as that, Bryan.The people living in the areas described by Curly will have paid much more into “the system” by way of taxes and National Insurance than people lower down the “class”. If they are paying more, why should they be deprived of the benefits they are paying for? Or is dear Hattie suggesting that if they are deprived of the benefits then they do not need to pay into the system? Seems to me that what Curly is getting at is the sheer unfairness of the proposals. Somehow, I don’t think that even the Labour Party will buy this one.

    Trigger

    September 9, 2009 at 1:29 pm

  3. I notice that you have put a local interpretation on what Harriet Harman proposes. Whatever gave you the idea that the West Park Ward is some prosperous enclave. As one who tramped the streets leafleting at election time I can assure you it is no ‘middle class paradise.’

    Dee

    September 9, 2009 at 3:45 pm

  4. Not quite as simple as that, Trigger. You raise the issue of ‘unfairness’. What is unjust is the fact that the child of a cleaner or labourer can expect to die almost a decade earlier than the child of a chartered accountant. That isn’t just unfair, it’s morally indefensible.

    Bryan

    September 9, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    • Bryan and Dee, with Labour in terminal decline and the government on it’s last legs Harriet Harman is simply placing her marker as a counter to John Cruddas come the day when Brown is removed after the election. She is just playing “dog whistle” politics and you’ve answered her call. There is no real intent to introduce such economic strictures in public social policy, she knows it, the Audit Office knows, government departments know it, and so do you. Labour will be out in less than a year so she’s starting her big hurrah a bit early in an effort to mask her lack of effectiveness over the past twelve years!

      curly

      September 9, 2009 at 10:11 pm

  5. No Curly, you were the one playing dog whistle politics with your ridiculous suggestion that ending social class inequalities would be bad news for West Park ward. Quite the reverse would be true.
    Pointing out the elementary inaccuracies in your argument can hardly be interpreted as support for Harman or newlabour.

    Bryan

    September 9, 2009 at 10:43 pm

  6. “Barmy, divisive, tribal, and a return to the old class wars that Blair tried his hardest to avoid” – an inaccuracy Bryan?

    curly

    September 10, 2009 at 7:48 am

    • You do seem to have ignored the point about West Park Ward Curly.

      Dee

      September 10, 2009 at 9:36 am

      • One only has to compare the average property prices in West Park ward with places like Rekendyke, Tyne Dock, Low Simonside, Biddick Hall, West Harton, etc, (which are accepted as being more deprived areas) to understand there is a difference in the demographic.

        curly

        September 10, 2009 at 5:36 pm

  7. Well there are parts of West Harton, Egerton Road Wolsey Court etc in the West park Ward. Some of the houses may be more expensive than the areas you mention but it still doesn’t make it the prosperous enclave that you were suggesting Harriet wanted to penalise

    Dee

    September 10, 2009 at 10:36 pm


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