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Predating Al Gore on AGW

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Margaret Thatcher was in the vanguard

Sorry if this upsets the broader green/left campaigners, but for those who hold an unshakeable belief in anthropogenic global warming and mankind’s blame in climate change, I am grateful to Ellee Seymour for pointing out that former Conservative Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher attempted to get world leaders to agree a common purpose at the 2nd. World Climate Conference in Geneva 19 years ago.

Our ability to come together to stop or limit damage to the world’s environment will be perhaps the greatest test of how far we can act as a world community. No-one should under-estimate the imagination that will be required, nor the scientific effort, nor the unprecedented co-operation we shall have to show. We shall need statesmanship of a rare order. It’s because we know that, that we are here today.

Just as Gordon Brown jets out to Copenhagen to bash heads together and somehow contrive a deal out of the mess and chaos created by the imbalance of wealth between nations and the political inability to find agreement;

“I know that for many people the Copenhagen conference seems like a grand talking shop with abstract arguments about issues of little relevance to their daily lives. But decisions we take in the next few days have the potential to be the most momentous for the world in more than half a century”

We find after nineteen years that little has changed at all!

Margaret Thatcher, in her speech  went on to say:

The IPCC report is a remarkable achievement. It is almost as difficult to get a large number of distinguished scientists to agree, as it is to get agreement from a group of politicians. As a scientist who became a politician, I am perhaps particularly qualified to make that observation! I know both worlds.

Of course, much more research is needed. We don’t yet know all the answers. Some major uncertainties and doubts remain. No-one can yet say with certainty that it is human activities which have caused the apparent increase in global average temperatures. The IPCC report is very careful on this point. For instance, the total amount of carbon dioxide reaching the atmosphere each year from natural sources is some 600 billion tonnes, while the figure resulting from human activities is only 26 billion tonnes. In relative terms that is not very significant. Equally we know that the increases of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere date from the start of the industrial revolution. And we know that those concentrations will continue to rise if we fail to act.

Nor do we know with any precision the extent of the likely warming in the next century, nor what the regional effects will be, and we can’t be sure of the role of the clouds.

Always one to speak her mind- plus ca change. (However, it is a speech worth reading, calling for carbon emissions reduction targets long before Al Gore even spoke of the matter, after all she was a scientist before she became a politician.)

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Written by curly

December 17, 2009 at 11:59 am

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  1. Why would it upset greens or even lefties? It’s ancient history, and like much history needs to be viewed in context. The context being Thatcher’s battle against the miners, which required the deregulation of the energy industry and removing the stranglehold of coal over electricity generation. That meant moving energy generation to gas, with UK government policy written by energy giants Enron.

    As a result, the UK’s biggest drop in carbon emissions can be attributed to the dash for gas. However, it also meant the current reliance on gas imports from eastern europe and a significant loss of energy independence.

    You’re spot on about political hypocrisy. Like modern politicians, Thatcher played the climate change card whilst developing a contradictory policy framework, presiding over the privatisation of the buses, an unprecendented growth in road building, out of town developments and setting in motion the privatisation and stagnation of the railways.

    rossinisbird

    December 17, 2009 at 8:24 pm

  2. i read the following in a port on another forum, this is only one small section of the whole post…..

    —————————
    In Copenhagen there was a humbler note among some delegates. “If we fail, one reason could be our overconfidence,” said Simron Jit Singh, of the Institute of Social Ecology. “Because we are here, talking in a group of people who probably agree with each other, we can be blinded to the challenges of the other side. We feel that we are the good guys, the selfless saviours, and they are the bad guys.”

    As Mr Singh suggests, the interesting question is perhaps not whether the climate changers have got the science right – they probably have – but whether they have got the pitch right. Some campaigners’ apocalyptic predictions and religious righteousness – funeral ceremonies for economic growth and the like – can be alienating, and may help explain why the wider public does not seem to share the urgency felt by those in Copenhagen this week.
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    to this i replied….

    WHAT ?

    first this prick says that they are a group who “probably” agree with each other, and without actually questioning the validity of man made global warming, states…..

    the interesting question is perhaps not whether the climate changers have got the science right – they probably have –

    no doubt this arsehole is there to support the scam, but its blindingly obvious that he doesnt understand the science, and yet he is prepared to support a
    sanction that will steal trillions of dollars from participating countries….

    EVERYONE OF THESE ***** SHOULD BE SHOT.

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    manmade warming is still an unproven theory, and these scientists are nothing more than charlatans, the whole thing is fucking criminal.

    madmarvin

    December 19, 2009 at 2:40 pm


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