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South Shields pubs which we have lost

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Do you remember these?

As far as I can recall they have all closed, disappeared, and gone out of business in the last ten years or been transformed into something else:

Winskells, The Albion, The Gold Lion, The Stanhope Hotel, The Commercial, The Alkali, The Turks Head, The General Havelock, The Look Out, The Eureka, The Nook, The Horsley Hill Hotel, The City of Durham, and The Commando. Are there others that I have missed?

So, isn’t it great to see that South Shields MP David Miliband, (favourite pint London Pride) has launched a campaign to save the British pub! His track record of looking after the pubs in South Shields  which have suffered under NuLabour’s years of taxing alcohol, raising excise duties, increasing Elfin Safety legislation, food hygiene regulations,  and banning smoking (without helping the licensed trade to build external shelters) will help his campaign enormously – not!

And he wants planning laws strengthened to help protect pubs from developers.

I guess he has seen the smart new flats at the end of Boldon Lane  then?

Mike Smithson at Political Betting calls it a Jim Hacker moment and mocks accordingly:

Meanwhile, my Greek friend is a little more scathing in his assessment, and I think our pubs need saving from the NuLabour apparatchiks who largely caused their decline.

Mr. Miliband, I can hardly remember a South Shields MP who was quite so hypocritical and two faced over a single issue! Has the grog fogged your memory?

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Written by curly

August 2, 2010 at 6:08 pm

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  1. That’s right Curly, everybody knows that food hygiene regulations are an unnecessary burden on business, I mean, who really cares if a few people die of food poisoning?


    August 2, 2010 at 7:34 pm

  2. Fine salubrious establishments like the Horsley Hill!
    The pub has had it’s day because tastes have changed. My generation saw couples go for a night out in the pub. My kids rent a DVD, order a takeaway and get a bottle of wine or some cans from the supermarket.
    The world has changed I’m afraid.

    I Spy

    August 2, 2010 at 9:26 pm

  3. I agree with I Spy. Tastes have changed, we now live in a more level society, where we have real choice. People choose to go to pubs now because they can take their family, have a meal, be in a smoke free environment. The familiy is now, I feel, more caring, gone are the days where the man would exit every night to enjoy ‘himself’ with total disreguard for the family. The pubs have closed because of a change in customer demand. A good quality pub will meet this demand, ensure they comply with the law and provide a safe, drug free, family environment. If only other aspects of the alcohol trade had been addressed! No, those pubs were meant for a small section of the community, and some had a violent – crime orientated reputation. They can go for me!


    August 2, 2010 at 10:14 pm

  4. dougies tavern and the allison arms have closed as well

    mr de

    August 2, 2010 at 10:56 pm

  5. Yes- I know I am a bit late in adding my comment but having mulled it over for a couple of days, I could not rest until I had this off my chest. Firstly, the question of why the pubs have closed is far too complex to be answered in the few words taken up by each of the responses made. Plus there are many statements made that could be challenged. (For example, Mr de, the original post was headed South Shields) Secondly, there are other reasons not mentioned. Thirdly, and most importantly, all 4 responses have completely missed the point. The original question being posed was “Where does Mr Miliband stand on this issue?” If only the original had been read and the question addressed, the responses would have been much more interesting. Perhaps Curly might like to open up a debate on the reasons for pub closures.


    August 7, 2010 at 12:09 am

  6. Yes Trigger, this was indeed the whole point of the post, our Member of Parliament was spectacularly quiet on the issue of pub closures over the past thirteen years, demonstrating his ability to do whatever he is told to do. He has a track record of failing to oppose or rebel against any measures enacted by his party, and one must question his motives now that he is in opposition.

    Makes you wonder if he has a conscience of his own, when he feels he can only speak out at times when it is necessary to gain attention i.e. during the Labour Party’s leadership election.

    Bagehot stated that an MP’s first duty must always be to his own conscience, his second to his constituents, and the third to his party.

    Looks like Miliband’s priorities are upside down.


    August 7, 2010 at 10:13 am

  7. Trigger, you must have read a different post, judging by the naked demonstration of confirmation bias behind your snide remarks.

    Curly’s ATL post is little more than a dig at Labour and what he sees as unnecessary red tape, and ignores the much more complex issues behind the changes in the pub industry.


    August 7, 2010 at 10:42 am

  8. OK Curly you make mention of the ethics and morals of being an MP. Where do they rest with the recent debacle on the failure of the government to allow the northeast to advertise tourism in the region, have a read of the Journal from Friday. Who do we blame, the government? The conservatives or Mr cable? He seems to think we should blame the conservatives! Before anyone starts on about the need to cut expendature read about the net benefits that have been derived by a strategic approach to tourism for the north east. No these are’nt cuts, they are stabs! Another Death Knell for the northeast. You claim to act as a promoter foor the area and specifically South Shields, are you able to cast your bias to one side and seek to support the region on this issue?


    August 7, 2010 at 4:37 pm

  9. Hi Curly.

    Of course, immediately after saving the British banger, Hacker went on to be Prime Minister….

    Best wishes,


    Nick Wallis

    August 12, 2010 at 6:12 pm

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