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Ed Miliband

Younger brother leapfrogs over ambitious elder sibling

Full story here, (or is it here?)

Sorry folks, it’s the only piece of news to have excited me in the past few weeks, I guess it could get more exciting if Miliband Major makes a momentous decision which might lead to South Shields looking for a Member of Parliament with stronger local roots!

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Written by curly

September 28, 2010 at 8:17 pm

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  1. Does not say much for the Coalition if only EM excites you. I assume you support Scameron and Clegg, nonetheless an amusing take given the worrying developments in Nth Kore,nothing to laugh about there! If only the other local blogs and tweets were satirical rather than malicious local politics would be a lot healthier. Who do you see as a good local Labour local candidate, if DM exits stage right…

    Labour New Boy

    September 29, 2010 at 7:54 am

  2. Follow up observation: read page 489 of TB’s book “A Journey” for very shrewd advice about how best to effectively attack and undermine a political rival or opponent without recourse to malice or bullying…

    Labour New Boy

    September 29, 2010 at 9:58 am

    • Well….yes….I find satire and wit a little more satisfying than personal abuse these days, that much is true. If I were a member of South Shields Labour Party, and if David Miliband were to stand down (we have to wait and see), then as a local candidate I think the Leader of South Tyneside Council would be a good choice, but that would leave a huge gap to fill as we try to regenerate during a period of austerity. Therefore, looking to a man with wide political experience locally, nationally, and within Europe, I don’t think you would find much better than Alan Donnelly, but who am I to say?

      curly

      September 29, 2010 at 4:55 pm

      • Your blog is the very acceptable face of local blogs. Others stray into very dubious areas of potential civil defamatory liability or even potential criminal offences if the bloggers are Public Sector employees or hold some form of Public Office.Fortunately, DM is staying in post at the time that we need a heavy hitt.er to represent the interests of our area…

        Labour New Boy

        September 29, 2010 at 7:14 pm

  3. Curly, didn’t your undoubted heroine Margaret Thatcher take the long walk to Finchley via Dartford!!! Hardly local for a grocer’s daughter from Grantham!!
    Similarly, I suspect that I don’t have much in common with David Cameron but there is nothing in our democratic constitution that says that I, as part of the Hoi Polloi, can object to a prime minister educated at Eton. As I’ve said before where would the country be without the Bullingdon Boys!! Surely we’d need to settle in North Korea in order to argue that we are all from the same roots, but then we all know that that is just a game – dangerous as it may be.

    mrsdoasyouwouldbedoneby

    September 29, 2010 at 8:00 pm

  4. P S Curly, I have always recommended your acceptable local blog???

    mrsdoasyouwouldbedoneby

    September 29, 2010 at 8:04 pm

  5. In some respects I feel for brother Miliband the Elder, it must be a bitter pill to swallow having lost by such a slender margin, but I fear he missed his best opportunities (twice) in the past to achieve his ambitions. Who knows how the last election may have panned out with someone other than the ghastly Brown at Labour’s helm?

    David Miliband must rue those golden opportunities which he allowed to pass by without decisive action.

    However, we must all now wait and see which direction Miliband the Younger will steer his ship.

    Curly

    September 29, 2010 at 9:30 pm

  6. Next question – does anyone think that David Miliband may now seek to find a role outside of Westminster?

    Curly

    September 29, 2010 at 9:35 pm

  7. The media and the intrusive bloggers and tweeters of S Tyne will not let the Ed and David political bros in dispute issues go, so DM may have to depart from Parliament. Ideally he should set up or be funded by an organisation to examine the effects of cuts on staff services and stakeholders in the Public Sector. By 2015 the effect upon lower income Conservative voters amongst others should be significant. When Police, Fire Services,libraries,trading standards, environmental health etc are stretched and strained,Tory Councillors will face the backlash.Noone seems to havefully addressed the issue of frozen pay, recruitment,redundancy,reduced resources and lack of new young trainees upon continuation and delivery of vital local services come 2015; services that are genuinely understaffed and under resourced now.An intellect like DMs could focus upon that vital issue and make great political capital out of it.

    Labour New Boy

    September 30, 2010 at 7:40 am

  8. Would Ed have served in a DM led shadow cabinet? Methinks that he would…any thoughts?

    Labour New Boy

    October 1, 2010 at 3:34 pm

  9. You are just dying for David to stand down so you can resume your Karen Allen slavver-fest for a bye election.

    I Spy

    October 1, 2010 at 3:47 pm

  10. LabourBoy – the kind of ‘intellect’ that allowed the injustice against the Chagos islanders to continue? Or the kind that voted for an illegal war? Or perhaps the kind that dashed to the FO to check if he was implicated in greenlghting torture involvement?

    brian

    October 1, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    • Brian; I urge caution in view of the proposed libel action against Sally Bercow by Migration Watch. Carter Ruck’s name has been bandied about by at least one South Shields politico, albeit in a different context, but it shows how sensitive people can be where they smell alleged defamation in the air. Philippe Sands book “Torture Team” is well worth a read; PS is my favourite international lawyer.

      Labour New Boy

      October 4, 2010 at 12:18 am

  11. Proof sources please.Agree that Iraq war is a matter of public record. I am a Chomsky and Phillipe Sands fan so always question the actions of politicians and their ethics/legality. When you look at who might step into DMs shoes or oppose him, I’d plump for Karen V DM rather than say X blogger V Springbokker, for the sake of South Tyneside’s reputation as much as anything…

    Labour New Boy

    October 1, 2010 at 5:42 pm

  12. NewLabourBoy do you not follow the news? How can you wax lyrical about DM if you don’t have a clue about him?

    brian

    October 1, 2010 at 6:57 pm

    • No need for sarcasm nor extrapolation of an opinion about DM intelligence. I have now read both Pilger On the subject and comment on the House Of Lords decision on the case,especially Lord Bingham,s dissenting judgement; Bingham being a Judge whom I admire. My area of law did not involve International Law, which I now have the time to study. If you wish to present a case you should quote sources.How many DM supporters would have knowledge of or awareness of the issues surrounding Chagos or DMs involvement therein.I will study the legal case and the undeniably murky practices of the British govt.

      Labour New Boy

      October 1, 2010 at 7:35 pm

  13. I too agree that Ed Miliband would more than likely have agreed to serve in a David Miliband Shadow Cabinet.
    However, as far as David Miliband’s involvement in the last government’s treatment of the Chagossians and our intimate knowledge and perhaps collusion in the methods used by other states in the “rendition” of suspects to third countries, I believe that David Miliband did his utmost to sweep events under the carpet and/or keep them hidden from view (especially from the courts). These events will one day return to haunt him.

    Curly

    October 1, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    • Regrettably he joins a long,long line of politicos, who sweep things under the carpet. All politics is local, so, whilst I admire people like Brian who highlight political hypocrisy, and who has pointed out a very serious issue that had slipped under my personal radar, I am afraid that the vast majority of local electorate are more concerned about South Tyneside 2010 to 2015 than the plight of Chagos. Perhaps our roaming local Councillor will fly out there. To be fair Tory politicians at senior level are interested in and have expressed their concerns about Chagos.

      Labour New Boy

      October 2, 2010 at 12:17 am

  14. I agree Curly, tactically DM made the right move. He would have been a liability in an Ed M shadow cabinet; too much negative ethical baggage.

    brian

    October 1, 2010 at 8:23 pm

    • Anyone reading these blogs with an interest in serious studies of ethical foreign policy should take a look at John Pilger’s website, read books by Mark Curtis or access “The New Statesman” website; Curtis appears to be a U K brand Naom Chomsky. If you have an interest in Lord Bingham and Chagos, the text of the House Of Lords decision in the case of R(Bancoult) v Secretary Of State For Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs decided during 2008 is available on line. Read then draw your own conclusions, but be careful what you post on line legal advice in defamation cases is very very costly!

      Labour New Boy

      October 2, 2010 at 8:42 am

  15. Pilger can be a bit too polemic for many tastes, but if you enjoy his work you also might like to try other investigative journalist/authors like George Monbiot, Naomi Klein, Paul Kingsnorth, Craig Unger and Greg Palast.

    brian

    October 2, 2010 at 12:19 pm

  16. Thanks for contributing, and for helpful info Klein and Monbiot on my radar. This is what blogging shoud be…

    Labour New Boy

    October 2, 2010 at 1:04 pm


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