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david milibandDavid Miliband earns more than my GP

From The Daily Mail

Former Foreign Secretary David Miliband should be able to buy brother Ed an especially nice wedding present next month — he has just pocketed £25,300 for two speeches.

According to the latest Register of Members’ Interests David, 45, (the one who doesn’t speak like he has a mouthful of marbles) got £15,300 talking to accountancy giants KPMG, plus another £12,000 for a lecture to an obscure think-tank in Paris.

Now a lowly backbencher, David has declared a total of £131,800 since losing out to Ed last September, including £25,000 for a talk in Abu Dhabi.

Then this from The Independent

Once a cabinet minister under Gordon Brown, Miliband recently set up a company called The Office of David Miliband, a report in the Daily Mail has revealed. By paying all his commercial earnings into the company, Miliband will pay 20 per cent corporation tax, rather than the 40 per cent he would pay as an individual taxpayer.

The company was registered as a private limited company in December 2010, and has not yet filed any accounts.

At age 41, David became the youngest person in 30 years to hold the position of Foreign Secretary. He was also the Secretary of State for the Environment from 2006 to 2007. He has taken a back seat in politics since losing a contest for the Labour leadership to his brother Ed in September 2010, announcing following the loss that he would not stand for the Shadow Cabinet to avoid “constant comparison” with him.

He is thought to earn thousands of pounds from speaking engagements around the world, and is represented by the London Speaker Bureau, a company that provides high-profile speakers for conferences and events.

Mr Miliband’s other earnings come from his role as vice-chairman of the Premier League football club Sunderland, which pays £75,000 a year. In addition to other earnings, Mr Miliband receives £65,738 for his role as Member of Parliament for South Shields.

Well, if their figures are anywhere near the mark, I make that around £272538 in the last seven months, and he won’t fall into that group of people who will start to pay 40% Income Tax today! I have no problem with that, none at all, I don’t mind him becoming rich, it was sort of expected wasn’t it? Some might think it’s a bit perverse to be earning more money as an international talker than my GP does for being a local lifesaver, but hey, there are plenty of them at it, it is just as perverse to witness how much money we pay our football players yeah?

What I do have a problem with is the rank bare faced cheek in claiming to stand up for and represent the “hard working” families of South Shields when he is only a very part time resident here, I will have a problem if I hear him preaching about “cuts” going too deep too fast (when he isn’t suffering at the sharp end), I will have a problem if he starts attacking other politicians over the treatment of benefits claimants when he has done everything possible to protect his own benefits from the Inland Revenue, and I will have a problem if he joins some of those other Labour MPs who call for greater measures against tax avoidance schemes instead of reducing public expenditure!

So Mr. Miliband, if you wish to champion the cause of the comfortable, but squeezed, middle classes that’s OK with me, it won’t be with them though, most will be paying Income Tax at 40% or above!

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Written by curly

April 6, 2011 at 12:53 pm

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  1. There are several issues here Curly, firstly do you really think that an ex minister earning this sort of money places him in an extra-ordinary position? Second earning such money does not stop anyone fighting for a cause, third of course you do not know what Mr Millibasnd does with the money he earns,that is his business. The measure of standing up for his constituancy is measured surely in how he represents those who need him, the amount of access we have to him by whatever medium, and the causes for which he represents the town or even the region. Unfortunatly you do lead the firing squad against Mr Milliband and try to raise the hype against him, I’m not a personal friend of David but on the two occassions he has represented issues for me I’ve been pleased with the outcome. But you’ve identified the reality; that there are many others out there. Why no criticism of the wealthy Condems? Answer = because Milliband is Labour. There is no escaping that this blog entry ios a personal slur. Your Blog resounds far better when you take a balanced approach and when you avoid such personal snipes.

    kevin

    April 6, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    • Hear, hear; how about some balance. Did you watch “See You in Court” on BBC1 yesterday evening, “Daily Mail” amonst others getting a legal pasting for personalised attacking journalism. The local DM abuser now appears to be a thoroughly discredited individual… so glasshouses and stones spring to mind. Remember that it is the private sector who offer such vast financial inducements.

      LL.B

      April 6, 2011 at 7:05 pm

  2. This sounds very like the position of the UKUncut protestors. Miliband is corporatising the tax status of his speaking income because he can. There’s no evidence that he’s using offshore vehicles to avoid UK tax, like one G Osborne does, so I’m not sure that your claim that “he has done everything possible to protect his own benefits from the Inland Revenue” is a fair criticism.

    Your strawmen arguments missed the real issue with tax avoidance – the argument should be for closing down tax loopholes to stop the corporate offshoring avoiders – something which unfortunately neither Labour or Conservative governments have taken action on.

    On a side note – http://www.davidmiliband.info/ is down.

    brian

    April 6, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    • With all of that available cash, one cannot think that the host has not been paid – surely?

      curly

      April 8, 2011 at 12:26 am

  3. Kevin,

    I have no problem with that, none at all, I don’t mind him becoming rich, it was sort of expected wasn’t it?

    I am not leading any firing squad either, I’m following what has already been reported in two national newspapers amongst many others, and cautioning against hypocritical political positioning can hardly be described as a personal slur.
    I’m sure our MP has faced far worse brickbats and criticisms in the House, never mind outside of it.

    Curly

    April 6, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    • ‘David Miliband earns more than my GP’ or ‘I do have a problem with is the rank bare faced cheek in claiming to stand up for and represent the “hard working” families of South Shields or “cuts” going too deep too fast (when he isn’t suffering at the sharp end), or ‘if he starts attacking other politicians over the treatment of benefits claimants when he has done everything possible to protect his own benefits from the Inland Revenue’. These are slurs with a political slant, those who work hard in politics to achieve are in the market place to earn. Just because someone has more money in their coffers doesn’t deny them the ability to support the underprivileged and I’m sure the vast majority of Football players in the premiership earn more than a GP even when swearing into the box. As a minister in the FO DM had to make life / death decisions maybe he was worth more than a footy player? There is little getting away from it your article is not balanced and I wonder how many former MPs from other parties you could have opted to attack. By the way is putting your savings into an ISA a means of saving on tax? I hope you are not suggesting that anything illegal is happening. On a final note do you really think that earning £250,000 a year is that uncommon. Small beer in other parts of the affluent south in true blue territory.

      Kevin

      April 6, 2011 at 9:27 pm

  4. You may well think it is small beer, hardly worth getting upset over, “in true blue territory”, you may well think it is not uncommon.
    It is for Members of Parliament though, you can see the full up to date and latest Register of Members Interests here (it is a .pdf)

    Curly

    April 6, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    • This is a weak and flawed argument. Look at Hagues entry. No mention of the wealth amassed from sales of his books which, in my opinion would not have sold nearly as well had he not gained fame as a politician. Also the problem with trace histories (documents)they have a tendancy to hide things, e’g. a common practice is to share wealth between spouses for tax reasons, place deeds and titles into childrens names and of course the list hides the wealth amassed by many MPs before they became MPs, from all sides. You could have picked on any number of MPs other then Milliband for your argument, alas you attempted to make political gain out of it.

      Kevin

      April 7, 2011 at 7:33 am

  5. Good points, Kevin. At least Miliband does not brag about his alleged “wealth” and lavish lifestyle and wave it in people’s faces, nor does he receive “hard earned” tax payer’s money, or evade/avoid paying tax whilst behaving in an offensive and arrogant manner.

    LL.B

    April 7, 2011 at 9:09 am

  6. I haven’t hidden the fact that

    “there are plenty of them at it”

    , and it would be a pretty poor political blog if I didn’t inject some politics into it, it would singularly fail to elicit your responses.

    Curly

    April 7, 2011 at 10:06 am

    • It’s not good Bryan, I’ve Tweeted and expressed my thoughts in a comment elsewhere in here – not good at all.

      Curly

      April 7, 2011 at 7:32 pm

  7. Hoisted by their own petard; wonder what the cynical Avatar has to blog on the subject…

    LL.B

    April 7, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    • Here is a point in hand. People will make political milage out of this, yet. 1) the man has done nothing illegal. 2) there were those who recognised his illness. 3)he has not, as yet gone. Unfortunate timing for the issue Curly blogged. This may do as much damage to the Conservatives as the Branley incident did for the Indys. There is no comparison with the level of ethical stance taken by this man and Milliband. I think it only right that Curly spends as many critical words on this issue as he did with Milliband and then in future takes more care in throwing those chunks of concrete around in the greenhouse.

      Kevin

      April 8, 2011 at 7:09 am

  8. Kevin are you having a giraffe? how can you possibly compare a wannabe nearly PM and ex Foreign Seretary with an ex Tory councillor who rose to the dizzy heights of some obscure council committee chairmanship???
    I’m sure Curly has already blogged his thoughts on “chatty man” Potts in here and in Twitterland he didn’t pull any punches either.As Curly said Potts should go immediately and pay back the money he has claimed since he made his resignation from the party, he never mentioned staying as an independent at the time.

    Sandra D

    April 8, 2011 at 9:30 am

    • Sandra, I am making the point that Milliband has done nothing wrong at all yet managed to get a large blog entry. I argued that this was for political gain, Curly agreed that ‘it would be a pretty poor political blog if I didn’t inject some politics into it’. All I am asking is for him to do the gentlemanly thing and spend an equal amount of time on the issue of a local councillor elected on the Conservative flag. Or is this touchy as we approach local elections? I’m dissapointed that you do not feel that councillors elected by the democratic process do not share the same level of responsibility as any others! The reality is that sometimes we do elect those who are unable to meet with the standards set.

      Kevin

      April 8, 2011 at 10:03 am

  9. Kevin I’m not going to get blogged down by this issue but only yesterday Curly wrote in here on the other big story about the elections calling for Pottsy to go and he didn’t mince his words, he he also Tweeted it a couple of time on Twitter where Potts is one of his followers, so he will see what Curly had to say. Is that not enough for you? three or four entries, against one for our MP?
    Do keep up to date Kevin.

    Sandra D

    April 8, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    • Sandra, we will have to agree to disagree. This is not a tweeter site. You need simply look at the amount of coverage on the issues described and the genre of the writing to see that my argument holds water. It is not so much an issue for me, I’m using it as an example of bias, I appreciate balanced views and objective comments even on political blogs, Curly has delivered such a balance on occassions. I’m sure that as the author of this site, and as someone who puts himself up to be put down, Curly will also know when he has delivered objectively.

      Kevin

      April 8, 2011 at 1:51 pm

  10. LLB your a devious Troll nothing more.

    Touching on DM for a moment I worked with him quite closely when he was energy secretary, one of my roles is to provide advice to DECC on climate change. I have to say I found DM as a commited and caring secretary with a refreshing drive and understanding of the whole climate change agenda.

    I feel he’s rather lost his way a bit since losing to Ed.

    avatar

    April 9, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    • Suggest that you study Conservative Home Local Government, an interesting site whether or not one supports that political party. The site monitors refuse to publish blogs that are off the point, or contain insults and abuse directed at other bloggers. At local level throughout the UK there are excellent, committed educated and businesslike councillors and council election candidates from across the political spectrum. South Tyneside would benefit from an online forum where they could blog constructively alongside our local MPs;Curly does his bit, but I would like to see the local authority host a site where we could discuss, debate and analyse, but not resort to derogatory and pointless personalised comments. In an ideal world perhaps Labour politicians would pause and look at their lifestyles and financial opportunities more objectively. In my opinion if I was earning a comfortable salary from being a professional politician I would put my additional earnings into funding schemes and organisations that served the people of the constituency that I was elected to represent; a donation to the CABx, The Customs House for example.

      LL.B

      April 11, 2011 at 9:02 am

  11. Thought that someone who is in the South Tyneside name calling blogger’s/tweeter’s mode would join in the debate at some time and add 0 to the debate and discussion.

    LL.B

    April 10, 2011 at 8:12 am

  12. Discusion LLB? This is just a platform for you to gratify yourself with self oral masterbation. Sadly the ether is infested with dickheads like you.

    avatar

    April 10, 2011 at 6:21 pm

  13. I rest my case; your abuse and choice of insulting words condemn you.Thank God for Curly, Kevin and Brian.I repeat you have added 0 to the discussion or debate prompted by Curly’s original blog.

    LL.B

    April 10, 2011 at 10:16 pm


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