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Gazette videos show lack of preparation by some

Well we cannot really expect South Tyneside’s group of politicians to behave like well trained media stars, but it was interesting to watch this batch of videos put together by the Shields Gazette as various party groups put their case before Thursday’s elections. It was painfully obvious that some had not prepared for this rare chance to speak to a wider audience, some had prepared a little, and some had prepared a little bit more………oh well, they all have their hearts in the right place!

Oh hang on a minute, where are the BNP and the South Tyneside Independent Alliance?

Iain Malcolm and Labour want to work more with neighbouring councils, the voluntary sector, and productive partnerships – nice to know he’s following good Conservative principles!

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Written by curly

May 3, 2011 at 6:21 pm

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  1. The Tories may have hated him, but isn’t this kind of thing why they had Piggy Potts. He wasn’t good at much, but he did know the media. Wheel him out once or twice a year. Looks like he didn’t teach Milburn much telly skill before he went his merry way.

    Janet Cross

    May 3, 2011 at 6:44 pm

  2. May I eat my words. Ive just seen Joe Abbott’s bit. Milburn is a superstar by comparison

    Janet Cross

    May 3, 2011 at 6:45 pm

  3. The “virtual reality” councillor has looked a lot trimmer lately.

    LL.B

    May 3, 2011 at 8:38 pm

  4. Curley – my predictions for tomorrows local poll –

    HEBBURN NORTH – LABOUR GAIN
    HEBBURN SOUTH – LABOUR HOLD (no popping of champagne corks in the Malcolm household)
    MONKTON – WIN FOR ALAN KERR EASILY
    PRIMROSE – WIN FOR LABOURS KEN STEPHENSON
    BEDE – COUNCIL CHAMBER BECKONS FOR LABOURS FAY CUNNINGHAM
    BOLDON – ONE TO WATCH – INDIE GAIN BY 20 VOTES AFTER A RECOUNT
    CLEADON AND EAST BOLDON – WOODY BUCKS NATIONAL TREND FOR TORIES
    HEDWORTH AND FELLGATE – INDEPENDENT HOLD WITH MASSIVELY INCREASED MAJORITY
    SIMA AND REKENDYKE – SILENT MAN CLARE WINS AGAIN
    BEACON AND BENTS – MCMILLAN….JUST (HODGSON ONCE AGAIN PROMISES NEVER TO STAND AGAIN)
    BIDDICK AND ALL SAINTS – FOUR MORE YEARS FOR MR MAYOR
    WHITELEAS – MILIBANDS SPY IN LABOUR GROUP WINS EASILY
    WEST PARK – HOLD ONTO YOUR HATS – HERES JOYCE WELSH!! (PROGRESSIVES FOLD AS A POLITICAL FORCE)
    HORSLEY HILL – CHEER IN FOUNTAIN AS MALCOLM RIDES BACK (no cheer in Eddie Mc household)
    HARTON – HIS HENCHMAN DIX DOES SAME IN HARTON
    WHITBURN AND MARSDEN – NO SURPRISES ITS SPRAGGON
    CLEADON PARK – RED RUM FALLS AT FIRST HURDLE, HERES DOREEN!!

    and finally…..

    WESTOE……….

    NAIL BAITING PHOTOFINISH – BIG TURNOUT BECAUSE OF REFERENDUM SECURES SMALL MAJORITY FOR PAT HAY. WESTOE GETS SET FOR 2ND BY ELECTION AS ALAN RESIGNS IN JUNE.

    vicki

    May 4, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    • Err…good to hear from you again Vicki, some interesting choices there.
      Why do you think the Malcolm household would not celebrate a Labour hold in Hebburn South?
      You seem to be suggesting that the Indies will fail to win a single seat, am I right? (Oh no, you throw Boldon Colliery and Hedworth in for a laugh)
      Lol @ Whiteleas!
      Looks like your predicting a good poker hand for Labour then.

      curly

      May 4, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    • VICKY, you are right about most of your predictions.
      your spot on about fellgate & hedworth because i think she will walk the floor back into labour when she wins.
      But i do think your wrong about westoe, Jane Branley will win by 100+ votes, Also dont under estermate the Horsley hill residents, But thats just my thoughts.
      Before i go i predict victory for a Independent in one ward a lot of people are over looking.

      Rob

      May 5, 2011 at 3:17 pm

  5. I agree with Vicky on most, but I think Cleadon Village could fall because of Potts’s actions and Labour’s candidate is very well known.

    I think Boldon will remain Labour.

    Elsom could hang on. He is well known and well liked, and I don’t know how active Colin Campbell has been. Voters are a bit more savvy these days and he may not be able to sufficiently split the vote to allow a Labour victory.

    Whitburn and Marsden last year could have gone to the tories in a head to head scenario but this year should be Labour with tories lagging nationally.

    I think Labour should do well in Beacon and Bents, more than Vicky suggests. Khan is massively unpopular in the town these days and he has been closely linked with Jim Hodgeson for a long time. I predict that, should Hodgeson lose then Khan will not stand next year as his ego couldn’t stand the blow.

    Khan’s friend Peter Shaw may be shown to be the alleged author of the anti-Potts blog “David Posh” and the mud will stick to Khan and co. Whilst Potts deserves criticism for his politics there was a lot on there about his family and some sexual nasties so it isn’t going away for Shaw.

    My predictions for what they are worth anyway.

    Allan Steward

    May 5, 2011 at 10:43 am

    • Satire and what could be described as ironic humour is acceptable, but, regrettably, some politicos are so unapologetically naive/arrogant that they make targets of themselves.However, family and private matters should be out of bounds. Surely the much maligned Standards Board has guidance/guidelines re Councillor’s tweet/blog content.

      LL.B

      May 5, 2011 at 4:52 pm

  6. labour majority reduced to only 90 in biddick and all saints
    ward my prediction.

    mickde

    May 5, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    • Mickde.

      Alot of people have not given the residents of Biddick & All Saints any respect. Independent to win by 15+ VOTES.

      Rob

      May 5, 2011 at 7:14 pm

  7. Perhaps they do LLB, but Shaw is not a councillor.

    To be honest I was suprised by him. He made out on his original blog that he was honest and open, and I genuinely think he began with honourable intentions for his community, but his hatred for potts developed into some kind of wierd obsession that was so deep he set up sites such as “david posh” and wrote annonymously, even though it was very clear to all that he was behind it. The subject matter went too far and he’s now hiding. Probably worried sick what will happen to him in the courts when the “monkey2” is defrocked. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think Shaw is the monkey, but he is linked.

    Allan Steward

    May 5, 2011 at 4:59 pm

    • I know that he is not a councillor. Note that in line with the advice that I would give any tweeters/bloggers I refuse to speculate about identities or as yet unproven speculative allegations. However, it is fair to comment on identifiable Councillor’s tweets, which, in respect of some of their content, seem to cross boundaries which I would regard as possibly contravening good Standards Board recommended tweeting practice

      LL.B

      May 5, 2011 at 5:53 pm

      • Guys, apologies, the WordPress servers seem to be in a bit of a mess at the moment.

        curly

        May 5, 2011 at 6:23 pm

  8. As for Biddick and All Saints, I think Lab will win by more than 90. A lot more

    Allan Steward

    May 5, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    • poor turnout labour voters stay at home due to condem cuts starting to bite..

      mickde

      May 5, 2011 at 7:27 pm

  9. Wood out of Cleadon, must be the biggest shock of the night!

    Allan Steward

    May 6, 2011 at 9:19 am

  10. Hope Rob and Mickde don’t give up their day jobs and go into the prediction business given the big Labour majority in Biddick and All Saints. Anything to say lads?

    Ispy

    May 6, 2011 at 10:04 am

    • Ispy. your right about the day job. Hats of to cllr piggot. I was right about cllr Branley though.

      Rob

      May 6, 2011 at 10:26 am

  11. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day!

    Ispy

    May 6, 2011 at 10:40 am

  12. Before I go any further, congratulations to those who won and commisserations to those who lost. A lot of people across the poltical spectrum did a lot of hard work in the run up to 5 May, meeting and talking with local people. It’s heartening that people value local democracy

    Interesting reading the predictions, especially for Biddick. I did a lot of work there for Tom and he deserved the resounding victory that he got against the Indies. It comes to something when the Indy candidate puts a leaflet out saying that they have no policy and want others (the residents) to give them the policy! Now just watch what bile and venom will come out in Biddick from the Indies because as sure as day becomes night becomes day, it’ll happen because they haven’t got anything worth saying

    Mark

    May 6, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    • Mark. I agree with what your saying and i take my hat of to tom for his success.

      Why should there be bile? what i under stand is What has happend in the past is in the past.

      Cant every one involved just respect each other?

      We the residents are hearing storeys from both sides.
      we dont know what the truth is.

      Rob

      May 6, 2011 at 5:54 pm

  13. Maybe the question about respect should be put to the Independent candidates past and present. For it is they who have put out leaflets full of smears about the personal lives of their opponents. Maybe that explains why success seems to be evading them.

    Ispy

    May 6, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    • That is a very good point Ispy, and the “flavour” of their opposition pervades across many others in the eyes of the public. There really is no necessity for personal attacks and negative campaigning in the battle of ideas. What there is a big need of is the very ideas which form the basis of policy.

      We face hard times and they may last longer than we expect as the country battles to come to term with Labour’s debt legacy to our children, therefore it becomes even more important for opposition figures to think about throwing their politics out of the window for a while, coming together to discuss new fresh initiatives and policies to regenerate our local economy, and agreeing to work with Labour locally where they feel support is required, and I’m sure there must be areas where they can support the party which has the popular mandate.

      It is not good or healthy for our local democracy to have such a heavy bias towards one party, and I’m sure Labour would welcome constructive challenges, but it is now the responsibility of the opposition parties to take a hard look at themselves, redefine where they want to go, and offer us good reasonable alternative policies and ideas. We are NOT interested in the personal attacks, they have led to nothing more than greater domination for one party.

      Curly

      May 6, 2011 at 9:04 pm

  14. Just thought i would nip in here for a comment on how to gain the votes for any politico wishing to win any public vote or referendum.
    1.Do not slander or slag off any opposition.
    2.Spend money (lots) on press advertising,leaflets.
    3.Do not listen to any advice except from the campaign manager.
    4.I bet any amount of money if some politico wanted to win a local government election i myself could get them in within a year , its easy……………

    mickde

    May 7, 2011 at 6:37 am

  15. Curly check this out if you have a minute…..lol

    mickde

    May 7, 2011 at 6:58 am

  16. mickde with regard to your advice about spending lots of money there is a very modest limit to the amount you can spend on your campaign. So I wont bother taking up your offer to ‘get me in within a year’ unless of course you are talking about jail.

    Ispy

    May 7, 2011 at 8:42 am

    • Well what is the budget for ward advertising ?

      mickde

      May 7, 2011 at 9:32 am

  17. Candidates total expenditure limited to £600 per ward plus additional 5p per elector registered within the ward, so less than £1,000.

    LL.B

    May 7, 2011 at 9:54 am

    • Unfortunately, that limit only applies during the election period. No limits are in place during the rest of the year.

      Bryan

      May 9, 2011 at 10:16 am

  18. That is true, but the reality is that most of them don’t do much work during the year. Biggest scandal of all was the council’s On View magazine. Using public funds for Labour party propegands.

    Allan Steward

    May 9, 2011 at 10:25 am

  19. These LA news magazines are frequently criticised by Conservatives; Newcastle Council publish informative monthly peiodical/magazine, so presumably LibDem’s have no objection. Propaganda what propaganda? If Labour are in overall control, and, apart from one or two notable individuals, opposition is mediocre or discredited. “Airportgate”, PFI two issues that someone of Curly’s standing, whatever their political allegiance, could have investigated and discussed.

    LL.B

    May 9, 2011 at 11:34 am

  20. I hope that there isn’t “bile” but knowing the people involved, there will be plenty of personal attacks. Ispy and Curly are absolutely right – I and probably the vast majority of us in local politics are happy to discuss and debate policies. But personal attacks, calling people names, character assassination, etc… – even young school children have a higher level of maturity and understanding

    Mark

    May 9, 2011 at 5:52 pm

    • It has started already with the provebial ink barely dry on the declaration of results; if only the “bile” bashers had shown the initiative of the “Journal” and campaigned to create a hundred aprenticeships in the South Tyne area or emulated Cllr Harry on ConHome Local Govt and suggested 100 viable moneysaving ideas for South Tyne Local Authority thus parking off a constructive debate… if only!

      LL.B

      May 9, 2011 at 6:21 pm

  21. Wonder whether or not the two premier “snipers” ever read this blog and take on board the opinions of those who are bored by their pointless exchanges of mediocre verbal antagonism.

    LL.B

    May 10, 2011 at 9:38 am

  22. I’m pretty sure they do (in fact I know they do) but it appears that they have a personal “attachment” for each other!

    Curly

    May 10, 2011 at 6:19 pm


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