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There’s no smoke without fire!

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Scrapyard fire in Byker, Newcastle

Newcastle scrapyard fire seen from West Park, South Shields

Perceptions and/or deceptions

I had some pictures to drop off and was just driving back into South Shields town centre when I spotted the huge pall of smoke rising into the sky

“somewhere down by the river or Town Hall”, I told Mrs. Curly.

As we approached the Town Hall I thought that it was rather a lot of smoke, perhaps they were burning a load of old rubbish leaflets belonging to the Independent Alliance or even the mystical missing ballot boxes, but no, my perceptions were wrong again, it was definitely down by the river, this time I plumped for Aker McNulty’s yard. Wrong again, as we got down to Commercial Road I knew it had been a deception.

“The wood yards at Tyne Dock” Mrs. Curly suggested,

yet as we drove along the Jarrow Road it was plain that her perceptions were wrong too, by now the plumes of smoke had begun to resemble one of those monstrous tornadoes that rip through the mid west of America. There was an acrid burning smell permeating through the car as we headed towards Victoria Road and from Jarrow it was plain to see that there was a large fire in……….Wallsend, yes, it must be Wallsend.

Did a drop in Hebburn and decided that this fire was not going to deceive me again so we headed for the Riverside Park and it was obvious from the marina that this enormous conflagration was taking place somewhere in either Walker or Byker, (click the thumbnail below for a larger view). By then I had tuned to BBC Radio Newcastle to discover the truth, yes the sheer size of this fire had played tricks with our perceptions and deceived us both, apparently the plume of smoke, now rising some 500 feet into the air, could be seen by listeners as far away as Redcar, Hartlepool, Durham, Alnwick, and the Farne Islands! Another media event not to be missed today, with all sorts of misinformation fed into the mix.

Which reminds me, Andy Hughes, a reporter for the Newcastle Journal and Chronicle had another story published today (was it perhaps based on old  rumours?) , which apparently went up in smoke –  at least in their internet editions – “independent” Cllr. Potts appears to be pleased that that one has ended up as ashes, but the embers remain and his detractors at least want to see the end of another deception, that of announcing his resignation, but….err……not just yet.

My nostrils tell me that there is a smouldering fire burning beneath the Conservatives in the Jarrow constituency and it should have been extinguished some time ago, left untended, these fires can suddenly blow up in your face again!

I think this may also have been the “big one” that someone wanted to drop into my ear on Tuesday, you just never know with the amount of misinformation that floats around in South Tyneside…….

Now, I thought I linked those two together rather neatly!

Newcastle scrapyard fire, from Hebburn

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Written by curly

May 19, 2011 at 8:29 pm

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  1. So long as Mr. Potts is exercising his responsibilities as a councillor towards his constituents, and attending the statutory minimum amount of meetings, there is no requirement for him to resign at all.

    K. Wanstead

    May 20, 2011 at 9:03 am

    • See his most recent tweets on the subject of the requirement for attendance at ST Council meetings.Certainly an interesting organisational theory, one could argue that Sunderland AFC’s defence are currently subscribers to a similar theory.


      May 20, 2011 at 5:40 pm

      • Are you suggesting that Ferdinand, Bardsley, and Mensah will scrap on the ground and STILL be there in 2014?
        Oh dear….


        May 20, 2011 at 5:49 pm

  2. Despite thinking I was looking North to the fire from River Drive it is actually further South in Byker Bank,hard to believe but check it out on Google maps.


    May 20, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    • That is very true, and following the curves in the river can confuse a little more.


      May 20, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    • Might have inspired a latter day John Martin to produce an apocalyptic masterpiece.

      Meeting Tree @ Hinckley

      May 22, 2011 at 6:51 am

  3. An “off the cuff” comment from a rugby union afficianado, who rates those proven Wembley successes the Whitley Bay soccer team way above the premiership poseurs,and is also amazed by the naivety exhibited by some local politicians, and, even more so, by those who apparently defend them.


    May 20, 2011 at 6:22 pm

  4. Curly

    It’s DP. Hope you will run a piece on TMG’s lies. Khan is also implicated as he repeated on Twitter and can’t admit he screwed it up.

    Grazie mille


    May 21, 2011 at 12:39 am

    • Looks like Carter Ruck could potentially be on a conditional fees winner; see you in the next (hopefully) series of BBC-1’s “See You In Court”. Talking of rucks, who will triumph in the European Rugby Cup Final? And bear in mind that those players earn an annual salary equivalent to what a Premier League Soccer Player earns in a week.


      May 21, 2011 at 7:32 am

      • Good win (as opposed to Gooodwin) for the Quins last night, pretty close run thing though.
        Unlikely to see any Twitter based injunctions taken out by men who play the game and respect the referees though, as for the online monkey business locally I think I’ll run with it more readily as and when it reaches a courtroom.


        May 21, 2011 at 10:51 am

  5. My advice-free!- steer well clear of any of these alleged defamatory tweeting councillor or press reporting contentious issues; you blog in a sensible and measured way, but, unfortunately, some of the respondees are far, far less reflective and cautious as regards what they publish, and if you publish inadvertently, you could be Carter Rucked in a way that would make the Leinster pack look tame.


    May 21, 2011 at 1:16 pm

  6. Real bar room lawyer you have in this LLB character, Curly

    David Potts

    May 21, 2011 at 1:46 pm

  7. Just going off on a tangent for a moment, the current furore involving Twitter and Schillings may have repercussions for South Tyneside Council. I have a feeling that the lawyers for Twitter will be strongly protective of their subscribers and attempt to test the boundaries of British jurisdiction in the action brought by Schillings on behalf of a man alleged to be a Premiership footballer.
    If they are successful, I can Imogen further difficulties for the plaintiffs seeking to disclose information surrounding the activities of a certain blogger.


    May 21, 2011 at 2:46 pm

  8. QUINS, a class act; Euro Rugby generates plenty of heat, and is generally speaking a good advert for the sport. Have toured with some “Quins'” players, good craic. One of Springbok origin used the word “gaap” when encountering minor annoyances on tour.


    May 21, 2011 at 3:43 pm

  9. Are will sill at primary school here? LLB shouldn’t hide away behind some silly little name. When David Potts comments he does it in his own name. It gives you kudos. Try it, LLB

    David Potts

    May 21, 2011 at 11:27 pm

    • David,
      now that you are here and vocal through this site and your own, perhaps it is time for me to put it to you directly and candidly, that a lot of people feel miffed and cheated by your last “resignation statement”. You indicated back in January that you were “quitting politics” and resigning from the Conservative Party, the clear given intention back then was to resign also from your position as councillor for Cleadon Village and East Boldon ward.
      There are many people in South Tyneside who are extremely disappointed that you have failed to honour your word, as expressed in your resignation statement, and that you continue as a councillor, claiming the allowance but,as yet, not attending meetings.
      Further, there are many who will point out that you were elected as a representative of the Conservative Party, and that your electorate at no time elected or wished to elect an independent councillor. Your “resignation” may well be seen as having cast a dark shadow over the ward, to such an extent that it damaged the electoral prospects of your former colleague Don Woods, who frankly did not deserve to lose his seat.
      Can I ask you to make it clear, perhaps through this thread, what exactly your intentions are in respect of your council seat between now and May 2014?
      Will you be resigning to allow the people of Cleadon and East Boldon the opportunity of electing a new councillor in the very near future?
      Will you be staying in situ until the date for re-election in 2014, and if so, will you be a candidate in 2014?


      May 22, 2011 at 9:33 am

  10. Great W for Leinster in another good advert for the game. Johnny Sexton hotter than the Great Byker Fire. Hope that you watched it Curly. Have your knees recovered yet? Perhaps John Grisham will write a novel about the twitter wars.


    May 22, 2011 at 12:25 am

    • Leicester “Tigers” might have burned Johnny S and given the Leinster pack a flaming contest. Two great rugby talents Gavin Henson and Danny Cipriani seemed to lose their way when they became what you might call “celebs”. Your local club Westoe, a credit to the town. Anonymity a good idea given the amount of personal abuse and cyber style verbal taunting and bullying indulged in by some contributors to blog sites. Catch the John Martin exhibition at the Laing he was a locally born man whose talents you should be proud of, but he suffered a fair amount of personal criticism in his time.

      Meeting Tree @ Hinckley

      May 22, 2011 at 7:43 am

    • Knees?
      Probably a bit too cryptic at this time of day.


      May 22, 2011 at 9:33 am

      • The physical legacy of your active campaigning and leafleting. One thing for certain you are a “presence”, and, that is the “bottom line” for any local politician. Walking the walk, letting local residents see that you actually go and look at and try to address such issues as the fly tipped rubbish, the uneven pavements etc, as well as attending CAFs, PACTs, and Council Meetings etc.Guy Opperman, thankfully restored to good health, is a role model.


        May 22, 2011 at 3:14 pm

      • A super result if not a super injunction for SAFC; let’s hope that no “own goals” are scored at the Stadium of Litigation. The wise words of a military man seem apt for both Premier and Non League players to reflect upon “conflict is easy compared with conflict resolution which usually goes on far,far longer than the conflict itself and is much more expensive”.


        May 23, 2011 at 6:47 pm

  11. It appears that ST is a place that is apparently awash with relatively trivial rumour,spin and misinformation, so that even an allegedly jokey aside is hardened up into a statement of fact or intention. Meanwhile, whilst some twittless (not you Curly) the area burns, metaphorically, if not literally! At least the local “Journal” newspaper campaigns successfully to try and improve the lot of the locals eg the recent create an apprenticeship initiative.My opinion is that the area needs more blogging Curlys regardless of their political colour. Farewell, I’m back down the A1.

    Meeting Tree @ Hinckley

    May 22, 2011 at 1:13 pm

  12. Hi Curly. I really haven’t decided yet. I guess that for some of those who dislike me it must feel like life is full of disappointments.

    You say that Wood didn’t “deserve” to lose his seat, but I think it unfair and somewhat naive to lay the blame at my door, and I think many of my loyal constituents would be insuled at your assumptions on their democratic wit. The simple fact is that Jarrow Tories are pretty clueless when it comes to campaigning. Too many huge egos in the old guard sprouting out their time-tested methods of failure. Any electoral success was met with an envy and distain that made it impossible to continue fighting within a deeply fragmented and unrealistic local party. I brought in money, increased their membership three fold and was proud of our acheivements. It would be wrong and irresponsible for anyone to disregard those many years of hard work and commitment.

    There are some really stand up guys within the local party. I won’t be so churlish as to name those who I have little regard for. However the likes of Walter Armstrong and Jeff Milburn are good, honourable men, with talent. Alas, they are pitched against some of the most odious people I have ever had the misfortune to meet. It was a daily battle trying to deal with the morons.

    Hope this clears a few things up.

    Still have a lot of regard for your balance and sense of fairness, Curly. Keep up the good work!

    David Potts

    May 22, 2011 at 2:31 pm

    • Do you have any pictures of a car crash Curly, cause this statement from Pottsy needs illustrating.
      He hasn’t decided???

      F. Wilkie

      May 22, 2011 at 8:02 pm

  13. Worth any potential claimant alleging that they have a potential damages claim seeking advice about the relevance of the principle of contemptuous damages in tort claims, and how the defendant’s lawyers might proceed if seeking to raise that as a defence.


    May 23, 2011 at 9:27 am

  14. Do you smoke pot LLB?

    The Beacon

    May 24, 2011 at 1:09 am

    • What has that contributed to the discussion?Or is it clever ironic humour? To quote Curly, it is too cryptic for me, perhaps you can shine more light. Having studied law, and having a particular interest in certain areas of law, I find this blog a good place to try and spur some debate on the legal aspects of the behaviour of some local politicians and local issues. Regrettably, those whom I would describe as the constructive bloggers, who make points well, but do not jibe at or make personalised comments about fellow bloggers, have stopped blogging on this site. My prime concern is that Curly does not publish or allow to be published potentially defamatory comments which could have serious consequences for him. He has not the deep pockets of a Premier League footballer.I abhor the twitter attacks on certain targeted local politicians whatever their political colour, I agree that ST Council has the right to pursue an investigation on behalf of the targets, any organisation private or public would do so. However, any potential plaintiff in a defamation claim needs to be aware that whilst you may have good grounds for a claim, a well funded defence can raise some damaging evidence to mitigate or attack the basis of their claim, Bruce Grobelaar and the actress Gillian Taylforth are two high profile plaintiffs who discovered that to their cost.


      May 24, 2011 at 8:21 am

  15. He’s not very bright. Just enjoys his dictionary I suspect.


    May 24, 2011 at 8:16 am

  16. “Res ipsa loquitor” with apols to Baron Pollock…


    May 24, 2011 at 8:56 am

  17. Face to face debate? In front of an audience? Thought not


    May 24, 2011 at 9:17 am

  18. […] to resign his seat and that he intends to carry on as a ward councillor, yet only five days ago writing in this blog Cllr. Potts declared that he was undecided about his future: “Hi Curly. I really haven’t […]

    • Unfortunately the well intentioned tweeters cleadonsteve and garygleeson are finding out, as is obvious to you and I, that any attempt to enter into debate just provokes jibes and put downs.


      May 28, 2011 at 12:08 pm

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