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Twitter revelation could help Ryan Giggs

I know we have only briefly skirted around this issue in South Tyneside in the pages of this blog, but I fear that the jubilatory tweets of one of our South Shields councillors may be a little misplaced. His campaign to gain wider publicity for his argument may be gaining ground but the “spin” imparted by respected journalists appears to give the story a new twist.

Following news released in the past week that Twitter (certainly its European division) would be complying with legal based requests for user information, there must have been thousands of concerned users who tweeted Ryan Giggs name, taking a sharp intake of breath. Giggs lawyers may now see a way of gaining some information about who leaked his name on Twitter.

Tony Wang, the company’s head of European operations, warned last week that it would not seek to protect users’ confidential information when legally required to hand it over.

He said the most the company could do was to inform users before it released their details, to give them a chance to challenge the rulings in court.

Both news outlets tie the two stories together linking the Ryan Giggs mass disobedience issue with the Monkey business here in South Tyneside, in one fell swoop/spin the alleged owners of the five Twitter accounts involved here have been tarnished with the broad brush of  law breaking or contempt of court, whilst the plaintiffs are made to look like the good guys.

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Written by curly

May 29, 2011 at 10:42 am

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  1. Unfortunately for South Tyneside’s image, two local politicians have ignored the excellent template for blogs and tweetings created by you, and have chosen to dumb down, if not debase on occasions, debate, discussion and discourse. The Standards Board or STC’s internet policy have apparently been disregarded; ironically, council employees might well have faced serious disciplinary proceedings if they had gone public in the same fashion.

    PRESS WATCH

    May 29, 2011 at 11:38 am

  2. The Twitterati are grossly affected with apoplectic rage today, yet few of then consider that if they didn’t make the allegations they have nothing to fear, if they did make the allegations and can substantiate them they have nothing to fear, if they did make the allegations and cannot substantiate them then they had better start fearing. It is no good shouting about free speech if you cannot accept the responsibilities that go with it, it should never be right or acceptable to allegedly libel someone from behind the anonymity of a keyboard.
    I have read in one report in a national newspaper that if the author of the said blog is unmasked he/she may just declare themselves bankrupt , and that might cause some red faces all round!

    Curly

    May 29, 2011 at 6:05 pm

  3. Well put, as usual. Stop bullying,allegedly defaming and harassing, be careful what you tweet or blog, simples.

    LL.B

    May 29, 2011 at 6:59 pm

  4. Chickens coming home to roost

    The Beacon

    May 29, 2011 at 7:25 pm

  5. Not happy with being the victim of South Tyneside someone wants to represent all of the victims of the UK, and perhaps be the biggest fattest victim in the world.
    He’s pretty damned good at throwing the mud and good at sticking up the mirror and polished baccy tin to deflect the light that falls his way, someone should remind him that invincibility is a myth.

    The fit councillor

    May 29, 2011 at 8:27 pm

  6. Seen Khans face three times on telly today I want rid of the telly now.
    Dindn’t you ask if there was no smoke without fire curly?

    B.R. Todd

    May 29, 2011 at 8:42 pm

  7. Curly, please advise “cleadonsteve” to stop wasting his time and causing himself unnecessary stress, there are no legal remedies available to him, and he may tweet something which could compromise him. Ironic, but, regrettable.

    LL.B

    May 30, 2011 at 9:16 am

    • “Cleadonsteve” read S85 of The Local Government Act 1972 and marvel at the amount of rope that is extended by its provisions. Elections are the only viable way of resolving this type of situation, unsatisfactory as it may seem. In fairness, as regards the USA litigation route, STC are following a justifiable course of action, given the content of the blog, and the possible/alleged breaches of STC IT policy. It is not an attack on either privacy or “whistleblowing”, as regards the latter there are procedures in place, as regards the former what about the privacy of the individualls attacked by the bloger.

      LL.B

      May 31, 2011 at 9:44 am

  8. I just worry that this action might trigger a spate of actions and just wonder using public funding on what is looking more and more like a witch hunt will become more common.

    I can’t help feeling that just letting this die naturally might not have been a better option. Today’s news is tomorrow chip paper

    avatar

    May 30, 2011 at 12:49 pm

  9. […] Curly has suggested, if it hadn’t been for a philandering footballer’s attempt to force Twitter to release […]

    • Brian Paget said:

      Anonymity is a useful tool in the right hands, especially when it comes to whistle blowing and casting a light on the dubious activities of the powerful and dishonest. But here, someone with an axe to grind has abused web anonymity to scar local reputations, and has risked the borough’s regeneration efforts and with it the livelihoods of struggling South Tynesiders.

      Cllr. Khan sheds crocodile tears about breaches of privacy and human rights, as if he cares passionately about such things. I will have something to say later about private information contained in a confidential job application, which somehow surfaced within a few days in his Twitter account. (I have kept screen grabs). I’m sure I mentioned that freedom of speech comes with a certain degree of responsibility councillor.

      Curly

      May 30, 2011 at 5:22 pm

  10. This ST case had been an ongoing legal action long before any footballer scored an own goal.Mark Stephens an eminent media lawyer has congratulated ST legal on the way that they have pursued the matter. DP may not be “Mr Popular” on ST, but his brief comment to BBC R5 News about this matter was right on the money.

    LL.B

    May 30, 2011 at 2:18 pm

  11. Protection from Harasment Act 1997,Comunications Act 2003 and any legal websites advising thereupon should be consulted; no matter how aggieved, it is not worth risking any potential transgresions of the law.

    LL.B

    May 31, 2011 at 12:18 pm

  12. Those who criticise the STC for pursuing this blogger, should reserve their criticism for the perps, whoever they are, they have created the situation not STC. This blog was not clever, humorously satirical or ironic, it was all that council spokespersons have described it as. Anyone suspected of being responsible should seek expert legal advice, and both plaintiffs and potential defendants should refrain from tweeting about it and maintain a discreet silence in the public arena.

    PRESS WATCH

    May 31, 2011 at 5:14 pm

  13. Khan is being pretty disingenuous at present, blaming STC for bringing down a firestorm of publicity about the Monkey blog, truth is it was Khan spinning the tale to the media of the world. His verbosity has been rather over indulgent for someone who feigns concern about privacy.
    Are his pants on fire or something?

    Brewster's Millions

    May 31, 2011 at 7:09 pm

  14. He is a man who runs a business and has employees,apparently rooted in the real,everyday world, who appears to be a reasonably conscientious councillor, who attends meetings, holds surgeries, deals with resident’s concerns and uses his twitter to relay information, or give his opinions about such matters as sport. Naively, he has allowed himself to be goaded and dragged into what can best be described as a “virtual reality” cyber “war” with another councillor”, which has done the image of the area and the level of political debate and discussion in ST no favours.He has now sought legal advice, so the best thing he can do is confine his tweeting and public remarks to “safe” subjects, and allow his lawyers to issue any statements concerning STC’s legal action; he has denied liability and that is all that he needs to do.

    PRESS WATCH

    June 1, 2011 at 8:45 am


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